This is your first episode of The Upside Welcome if you've been here before. Welcome back.

Today is Wednesday, September 20th. My name is Jeff Dollar and we're recording in our house.

Today I am grateful for this ad home studio.

My name is Cali Dollar and I am grateful that there are people in this world that are great

or excellent at things that I am not good at. Like the graphic designer you hire to do the new

Upside logo. Yeah, no, I probably could have done that better. We are, if you haven't seen my

Instagram post, we are redesigning the Upside logo. Well, the podcast cover and I said in there

because a lot of people have like really cute cartoons of themselves, stuff like that. So I said

in the like project brief or whatever for the artwork, okay, you can turn us into cartoons

and you know, or animated whatever. And I meant like cool illustrations, like illustrate us.

And one of the first designs that came in was like me as a red headed green eyed Disney princess

and Jeff looked like a serial killer. And it was the worst thing ever.

I think you need to revise the work order or whatever it's called because if you say cartoon,

that's the direction that I would have gone in. Yeah. Yeah. I think. But I showed examples of other

podcast illustrations. Yeah. In the brief. So yeah, it was just too far of a departure. I also

said light and happy in the background of that one. It was black with like purple neon.

This is why I can't describe things graphically to get other people to help

create them because I know the look you're going for, right? But I can't think of how I would tell.

It's really hard. I've had that same struggle with web designers. And it's so hard to articulate

what's in my head. And then yeah, it's not a strength that I have. But what I was really grateful for

is I'm so so our last of the studio furniture came in for our podcast studio yesterday.

And it looks so good. And I am so glad that our designer from Page House Studio is so good at

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