This is Jenny Allen and you are listening to the Made for This Podcast.

Well, guys, I'm excited this week.

You're going to get to hear from Dr. Lee Warren.

He is a practicing neurosurgeon. He's a trauma expert and he also has written a book called Hope is the First

dose. And I've gotten to speak with him prior to this

and you're gonna love this.

I can't wait for you to hear.

So Dr Warren, we are talking about emotions

this season on the podcast and as a neurosurgeon I mean you are looking at the

actual brain all the time and you probably aren't thinking about emotions

except then you write a book about hope and I know

that comes out of your story will you just talk a little bit tell everybody a little bit about

your story. Sure so I've spent my career as a neurosurgeon dealing with people when they're in

their hardest moments, you know, delivering the news that there's been a terrible

accident or that somebody has brain cancer or something like that.

And so over the course of my career,

I began to wonder, particularly with fatal brain cancers,

I began to wonder how can I take care of people

when I can't fix them with surgery and I came to realize in studying people going through hardship

Jenny that hopelessness is really deadlier than cancer like when people lose hope people lose the ability to see a

possibility for themselves that they begin to lose everything even if they

survive the illness that hopelessness turns out to be something that can really

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