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S13E12 - Why is Baby Keem on Mr. Morale? Dissecting "Savior - Interlude"

Dissect

Cole Cuchna

Music, Arts, Society & Culture

4.910K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Our season-long dissection of Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers continues with "Savior - Interlude" performed by Baby Keem. We explore how Keem's feature mirrors Kodak Black's, why Kendrick Lamar made this symbolic pairing, and how it all sets up the next song "Savior." Shop ⁠Dissect S13 Merch⁠. Follow Dissect on⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ Twitter⁠, or⁠ TikTok⁠. Host/Writer/EP: Cole Cuchna Video/Audio Production: Kevin Pooler Additional Production: Justin Sayles Theme Music: Birocratic Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From the Ringer Podcast Network, this is Dissect, long-form musical analysis broken into short, digestible episodes.

0:06.9

This is episode 12 of our season-long analysis of Kendrick Lamar's, Mr. Morrell, and The Big Stepers.

0:12.0

I'm your host, Cole Kushner. Last time on Dysect, we examined both Crown and Silent Hill, tracks two and three on Mr.

0:29.7

Morow's second disc. It was there we found Kendrick expressing the overwhelming weight of responsibility

0:34.9

he feels as a voice of his community.

0:37.5

After recognizing his agency and setting boundaries for himself, we heard Kendrick retreat

0:41.8

to a Hill of Silence, continuing his album-long quest to decipher what's real in his life

0:46.8

and eliminate the fakes who are just around to exploit him.

0:49.9

At the end of Silent Hill, Kodak Black makes his third appearance on the album, rapping

0:53.9

a verse that in many ways reflected his third appearance on the album, rapping a verse

0:54.4

that in many ways reflected his initial feature on Rich Interlude. He talks about his struggles

0:59.2

growing up poor and without a father, and expresses amazement at the success he's had given

1:03.7

the odds stacked against him. Kodak's presence on Silent Hill also sets up one of the album's

1:08.8

reflection points, as Kodak is directly juxtaposed with the voice of Eckart To one of the album's central reflection points, as Kodak is directly

1:11.3

juxtaposed with the voice of Eckart Tolle, the album's therapist who begins the next track,

1:16.1

the subject of her episode today, Savior Interlude.

1:19.1

If you derive your sense of identity from being a victim, let's say, bad things were

1:25.5

done to you when you were a child, and you develop a sense of self that is based on the bad things that happened to you.

1:33.3

Now before getting into Tolle's insight here, I want to acknowledge what we hear behind his voice during this introduction.

1:39.3

Here it is isolated.

1:41.3

Blue-hats, blue-hats, blue-hats, blue-hats, blue red, blue, red, blue, red, blue, red, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue,

1:49.0

we hear two children saying blue, red over and over.

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