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You guys are seriously going to need a notebook and a pencil for this episode because our friend

Lisa Turkur is back and this time she has a book that has actually been really

meaningful for me and it's called Good Bound and goodbyes. It's like a

handbook for you know those relationships in your life that are difficult that

you have difficult history with but you still have to live with them maybe they're in

your family or it's answering some of those questions like when should I move on

from a friendship is so practical so helpful and I just love the way that Lisa teaches the Bible.

So make sure you go get it.

So we'll make sure to put the link in the show notes

for good boundaries and goodbyes.

But in the meantime, here is Lisa Turkurst and Jenny. interesting conversation for two reasons. Number one I'm talking to one of my

favorite people Lisa you're such a good friend and I just adore you. Number two we

wrote books that I know you're gonna to say are complimentary, but to some degree they're opposite, right?

Because I am talking about finder people and you are talking about setting boundaries when it goes wrong and so certainly

they're complementary but they are kind of totally different subjects when it

comes to our friendships and our relationships. I think this is so important though,

because unless you know how to have healthy relationships,

which I think this is the number one thing I hear from people,

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