I'm Molly Wansall and I'm Geoffrey Wansall and for the last 16 years or thereabouts we have been having lunch every Saturday and often our conversation turns to murder

and that's what's prompted us to launch this true crime podcast called Blood Ties

Hi everyone welcome back to the Blood Ties podcast.

I'm Molly Wansall and I'm here with my father, Geoffrey Wansall.

Hi, everyone. Welcome back. Thank you for listening.

Our blood tires seems to be getting ever more popular. It's amazing.

People are interested and they send us notes and they communicate with us.

It's very exciting. And it's a great privilege to do it. I really do think that. I don't take it for granted in any way at all. Well, we're going to be at CrimeCon again, aren't we? We're going back to CrimeCon. Well, I said I would turn up for a bit. I'm not doing two days. No, no. I'm not either. Jeffrey doing more than me

I'll turn up for a bit. I'm not doing two days. No, no, I'm not either.

Jeffrey and I, Jeffrey doing more than me. I'll turn up for a few hours and say hi.

We've still got that cover we had from the first time. And the big standy thing, that like,

tangy thing. Have we got that? I've got that. We took one each.

Oh, because I've got the cover. The table comes. The one that goes on the table. And I got the big... Standy thing. ...that pulls down. Criky. Amazing. I was thinking about that the other day and thinking, what are we ever going to do with that? Perhaps we could auction it. We could, perhaps. Give it as a prize to someone for something Put it in the bedroom

I've just had my murder by the sea framed

It's in the kitchen

Oh have you?

It's enormous

It's so heavy

I had to carry it back from the framing shop

I needed to die

Why didn't you get someone to help you?

Well, who is there?

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