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Welcome to the Eric Erickson Show podcast, Our Two.

Hello, America. Welcome. It is Eric Erickson here across the nation. The phone number is 877-973-725.

Should you wish to be on the program, I am delighted to have you. I wrote a book years ago,

probably 2015, early 2016, called You Will Be Made to Care. Now, let me explain to you where the title comes from.

When I was the editor of redstate.com, sometime around the O'Burgerfell decision that legalized gay marriage across the country. I was writing about it that this would have effects even on heterosexual couples in the country and on Christians in this

country. And a lot of people said, no, it won't. No, it won't. My gay marriage doesn't affect

you. Well, a guy commented and said, I don't care about the issue. I simply don't care. I don't care if two men get married. I don't care if two women get married. I don't care if a man and a dog get married. I don't care if a woman and a horse get married. I don't care if three people get married of different sexes. I don't care if three people of the same sex get married. I simply do not care.

And I replied back to him, and I said, you will be made to care. You will be forced to take a position.

And if you choose poorly, you will be punished. You will be made to care.

The left and secular society will not allow you to say you don't care about the issue because they care greatly.

And if they care, you must care.

And you must care one way or the other.

And you will be made to care became a phrase that has been picked up by others.

Most people give me credit for coming up with it.

I did come up with it and ultimately was challenged to write a book about the issue.

In fact, it was Matt Lewis, who writes a Daily Beast now, has been on CNN. He had been a

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