It's 2003 in Birmingham.

Doors have been slammed in your face, you're not welcome here.

They were capable of murder.

Drive-by killings, gang wars, a vigilante group that fought against Jamaica's notorious yardies.

The home boy thought we're not going to take this anymore.

We're going to be even more violent than you.

Before turning on each other.

I'm Livy Haydock and this is gangster, the story of the Burger Bar boys.

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BBC Five Live.

How Do You C.

with Ellis James and John Robbins.

Hello everyone and welcome to How Do You you cope with Ellis and John.

Before we start we just like to warn you that there might be a little bit of

effing and jeffing in this week's episode.

So enter with caution if you're not an effer or a jeffer and because of the nature of these conversations if you're affected by any of the issues raised

There's more information at BBC.co.

UK forward slash cope which is where you can link through to the BBC action line where

there is additional support and so Ellis as is traditional for this part of the

intro how's your shame? Shame levels pretty good actually for quite a prescient reason I had enough sleep last night.

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