There's always been a lot of talk about ways of including people.

And even if it's sort of like a joke or a surprise, that's one way that people like

to be included is, you know, people like a surprise party.

And especially since the band started in the 80s when music became very canned and synthetic

and hinged on MTV videos and then leading into the 90s where the biggest bands had a lot

of angst that they were expressing and often the singer is, you know, some kind of a sex

idol object, etc.

And we didn't have that going for it.

So we thought the collective consciousness was a better way to go.

And more enjoyable.

And yeah, this feeling that we're all kind of in this together, you know, in terms of not

only knowing some of the inside jokes and the language and the context for songs and for

antics and rituals, but also just acknowledging that the audience is going to make the show

and that the vibe from the audience is going to come to us.

And if we're being so open about improvisation, then the only good shows are the ones where

we're taking in people's energy and making the show out of that.

Even to the deepest level then, just sort of saying that in some level, yes, we want

to go in this incredible journey together.

Like, we've had these musical experiences at band practice and we're thinking that you

might enjoy it too, but let us know, you know, and we'll figure this out together.

And it's a beautiful thing too, because we don't have to feel alone.

Like we're four people trying to prove ourselves in our music and our songs and the experiences

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