Hi guys, thanks for listening to this bonus episode of Once Upon a Crime.

This bonus episode is going to detail an event that I was fortunate enough to go to this

past weekend.

Dean Straying and Jerry Beauty from Making a Murderer of Fame, the Defense Lawyers for

Steven Avery, were in San Francisco, which is just a little ways away from where I live

here in the South Bay, San Jose, and they were doing a talk called a Conversation on Justice.

So I recorded a couple little clips, or we'll play those for you.

And then I will kind of go and look at the notes that I wrote while I was there and talk

a little bit about what it is they share.

It was pretty interesting conversation, so I hope you enjoy it.

Be back in a minute.

I'm here across the street from the Warfield in beautiful downtown San Francisco.

I've probably heard the sounds of City and going to get mine for the VIP experience

for making a murder, Dean Straying and Gary Beauty.

And hopefully I get there in time to get a picture.

I'll report back in a bit.

So you might have noticed there on my clip, on the streets of San Francisco, as it were,

I had a little slip of the tongue.

I think I said Gary Beauty instead of Gary Beauty.

But that's kind of what happens when you are walking and talking and trying to record

and at the same time trying to dodge San Francisco traffic.

So there was a little bit of a slip up there, but I think you know what I was talking about.

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