Hello, Louis Theroux here. How are you doing?

Welcome to my Spotify podcast called The Louis Theru Podcast. podcast. Today we'll be speaking to Tan France, a man who it's a great privilege to have on the

show being as he is an enormous star on the smash hit Netflix series Queer Eye. So we talk about that,

also his upbringing in Doncaster, his rise to fame, the perils of being in the public eye as a gay

Muslim man of Pakistani heritage. I should say by way of background, there's a few things that probably

need explaining in advance, especially if you haven't seen Queer Eye, though most of you probably

have. It's a show that features these five gay guys as they go around making over the lives

of random members of the public all over America. Each of the presenters specializes in a certain area of life.

Tan does fashion. Bobby does design. Anthony does food and wine and Karamo is in charge of culture.

Oh, and Jonathan is the hair guy or person. I think he's non-binary. So they advise the people that they

meet on how to improve those aspects

of their life. Does that make sense? Tan came to fame fairly late. Well, he was 33. It's not that

late. But he'd been a very successful fashion mogul with some businesses selling modest ladies' wear

and swimwear, which not coincidentally, probably was very appealing for the

Mormon lady looking for something fashionable, but also not too revealing.

Mormons wear special underwear. Did you know that? Mormon men do that's designed to inhibit

them from indulging in the carnal appetites too freely.

It's a bit like being an escapologist. You know, you wear things that are hard to get out of.

So that's the other part that you need to know is that he was in Salt Lake City when I spoke to him.

We spoke remotely. Tan lives there with his husband, Rob France, a former pediatric nurse, who's now an illustrator.

It turned out Tann was a friend of my cousins, Justin Thoreau. That's how he says Theroux. I know it's

crazy. So Justin's name gets tossed about. There's some good-natured ribbing of yours truly,

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