I'm Andrew Beck-Grace, co-host of the NPR podcast White Lies.

They're not being held because they're charged with a crime.

These people are being indefinitely detained.

You can't just keep these people in jail until they die.

On the new season of White Lies, a story about immigration and definite detention in the search for a secret list.

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There's a good chance we never would have found any of these girls, but then Chan and Gilbert disappeared.

For 17 months, my daughter Melissa was missing.

We had no idea where she was. We didn't know if she was live or dead.

They're shrouded in burlap just like the first set.

They all are female and they are all within sort of a tenth of a mile of each other all along the same side of a desolate stretch of ocean parkway in Long Island.

And they said that they had found a female remains, skeletal remains, approximately 24 to 26 years old, four foot nine.

Jeff and I just started crying. We knew it was her.

Every past away and things changed. Everybody.

She was really in months.

And she went outside and she was waiting for a car.

And whoever person who was picked her up and ate but her too long had it.

I think it's important for people to have answers.

I know there's still a question in a lot of people's mind about Chan and Gilbert.

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