S1 Ep2: Hallie Rubenhold

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Sara Pascoe

Comedy, Society & Culture, Sexuality, Health & Fitness, Comedy Interviews

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🗓️ 19 August 2019

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Thank you so much for listening and thank you to the fantastic Hallie Rubenhold. Here is a bit more information on the author:

🍌 Hallie Rubenhold is a social historian and an authority on women's lives of the past. She has worked as a curator for the National Portrait Gallery and as a university lecturer. Her books include Lady Worsley's Whim, dramatised by the BBC as The Scandalous Lady W, and Covent Garden Ladies: The Extraordinary Story of Harris's List, which inspired the ITV series Harlots. She lives in London with her husband.

You can find out more at her website: hallierubenhold.com

And Hallie is on Twitter @HallieRubenhold

🍌 Her book is genuinely amazing and you can grab it here.

We also mention the work of William Stead – his book about the children being sold for sex in London is available for free here.

🍌 My book Sex Power Money is out now in hardback / audiobook / ebook

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0:00.0	people would observe how the poor were living and I mean but I think people were
0:07.8	aware of it but in the same way I mean there's there's a very strong parallel to
0:11.2	be drawn today because in the same way that you know we are aware that there's a very strong parallel to be drawn today because in the same way that you know we are
0:14.4	aware that there's a homeless crisis going on but are we really aware of what that means? Yeah. Welcome to Sex Power Money with me Sarah Pasco.
0:28.0	Holly Rubenhold is a social historian and an authority on women's lives in the past.
0:34.0	We're discussing her book, The Five, an incredibly well-researched and eye-opening insight
0:40.0	into the lives of the women who are murdered by Jack the Ripper.
0:44.0	Today we're going to be talking about poverty and addiction.
0:47.0	We're going to be talking about the history of trafficking, the shame and stigma around women with unconventional lives and the similarities between
0:54.5	Victorian London and today.
0:56.3	So you must have done something to be there.
1:01.8	They think that people are at fault.
1:03.0	They're morally defective. Yes.
1:05.0	This is, I mean, this is the whole idea behind the workhouse, you know, and the fact that if you were poor and somehow, if you were poor, somehow you had failed, you had failed you had failed on a personal level and if you were
1:17.8	relying on the state if you were relying basically on the parish for support
1:22.0	then there was something wrong with you and you had to be
1:24.9	shown that you couldn't do this that this wasn't going to be a fun experience
1:29.0	otherwise they believed people would just all be idle and maybe you do anything much like today.
1:33.4	Yes they do believe that people just become so lazy.
1:36.3	Yeah.
1:37.3	So they wanted to make the workhouse the worst possible experience it could be.
1:40.9	Yeah.
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