So, tiny bit of a backstory here.

Vanessa Marin, a sex therapist and her husband, Xander Maron,

stopped by to talk about their New York Times best-selling books, sex talks,

five conversations that will transform your love life.

So we started talking about their viral coin term.

The bristle reaction.

And this is the name that we came up with for that feeling you get

when your partner just comes in to touch you or maybe

give you a hug and you feel your whole body recoil.

And you don't fully understand it in the moment.

It's sort of like, God, why is just this simple touch from this person that I'm supposed to

love the most in the world?

Why is it evoking such a strong reaction for me?

So we're having a lovely enough conversation and then I just

throw it out there and ask them, what phase are you guys at in your marriage right now? We are,

so the phase that we're in right now is we very recently kind of finalized the decision that we're

not going to have kids. Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations.

Yeah, the first person to say that.

Yeah, I mean, it's a decision that we've been thinking about for like over a decade now

and kind of like kept kicking the can down the road.

Like we'll keep talking about it.

But Zanner just got a vasectomy last month.

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