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From BBC Radio 4, this is Things Fell Apart.

Strange Tales from the culture wars. I'm John Ronson, a writer living in America, the land where culture wars begin.

And by culture wars, I mean almost everything that people yell at each other about on social media.

We want to take mass off our children. That should be our choice. You are a white privileged male who has

no experience being willing. I can't help what I am. I was born like this.

I'm not saying that people should not be allowed to go through that procedure.

What I'm saying is it doesn't make them a woman.

It happens to be an opinion.

These wars can obsess us.

It can consume our lives and tear families apart. I was curious to learn how things

fell apart and so I went back in history to find the origin stories, the pebbles thrown in the pond, creating the ripples.

I had no idea what I would find, but I've uncovered some strange and unexpected tales of real consequence.

This story is about how in a culture war,

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