Hello, Ricky. How's it going? Hey, good. How's it going? Yeah, good. So question. Yes,

I'm ready. Go on. I'm ready. Wait, wait. Let me make sure both feet are on the floor. I'm ready.

What are dreams for? And I mean, do they provide a sort of medical or evolutionary advantage,

or are they just a byproduct of a living brain, which would be boring? So what are they? What are

they for? Are they for anything? I don't, I don't, I don't even use the, I can't think of the

correct terminology to ask you. That probably sounds like a dumb thing, but you know, I mean,

okay, I know what fingers are for. I know what eyes are for. What are dreams for? Dreams are for

the same thing as fingers. You're just using them wrong. You hit it perfectly that the question,

what are they for or are they just a byproduct? Yeah. The technical word people use in philosophy

there is an epiphenomenon. They're not doing anything. They're just associated with something

that's doing something. Right. I don't think we know really. I mean, we know that certain good

and necessary things happen during REM sleep, which is generally associated with dreaming.

That's not the only stage of sleep where we have dreams, but there seems to be a,

several things going on. At least there's a process of memory consolidation that happens during

REM. So if REM sleep is disrupted a lot, your memory certainly suffers, but that's not.

So is it, is it, so could you say that it's, your brain getting work done, that it can't do

when you're conscious, because it's, you're using it for other things and it goes right,

is asleep. Let's do this stuff. Let's stock take. Let's put, let's, let's, is it like, put in

a kid's toys away when he's asleep? Is it, I can't grasp what you mean by how do they consolidate

memories? Where the memories go? Is it like putting it away in a drawer? You're going to have to

use a lot of metaphor for me. I want to go back to the distinction you made quite naturally,

the beginning, whether they're, the dream experience itself is doing something or whether it's just

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