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The Marianne Williamson Podcast

S1 / E30 The Meaning of July 4th: A Conversation with Thom Hartmann

The Marianne Williamson Podcast

Marianne Williamson

News, Religion & Spirituality

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

John Adams said that he hoped that every July 4th, Americans would revisit its first principles. Those principles are found in the Declaration of Independence and today we celebrate the 245th anniversary of its signing. 

I sat down with author and progressive radio host, Thom Hartmann, to discuss those first principles, how our democracy is being threatened and the steps needed to save it…

Let this year's July 4th celebration be mindful rather than mindless. What should we celebrate, and what should we beware of?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I am convinced that if Jefferson, or Madison, or Hamilton, or pain, if any of them could

0:09.0

hop in a time machine and step into our time, they would be shocked and horrified.

0:16.9

As would Alexis DeToguefield, the French guy who came over here in 1836 and looked around

0:21.6

and wrote Democracy in America and they kind of woke up the world of what's going on here.

0:26.3

What we have right now is very much not what those people have been used to.

0:30.3

Hey everybody, happy July 4th.

0:42.0

This is America's 245th birthday.

0:45.8

You know our second president, John Adams, said that he hoped that every July 4th Americans

0:51.1

would revisit first principles.

0:54.0

Our first principles are enshrined and our Declaration of Independence and in our Constitution,

0:59.0

which of course was written later.

1:02.0

We all know the problems with the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

1:05.4

We know that 41 of the 56 signers were slave owners.

1:10.6

But I don't look at the Declaration of Independence as just a bunch of meaningless stuff written

1:15.0

by dead white men.

1:16.2

I don't.

1:17.5

Because as Martin Luther King said, the Declaration of Independence is a magnificent document

1:23.1

that he said is a promise or a note to which we are all heir.

1:28.1

On one hand, the Constitution of the United States allowed for slavery.

1:32.2

On the other hand, the Constitution of the United States was the basis for abolition.

1:37.4

A lot of things were allowed to be and to happen at the beginning when our country was founded.

1:42.6

And there have been some very serious tragic mistakes and transgressions, horrible violation

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