What has it been to be human today? To be human today is to be responsible either directly or indirectly

for climate change, for extinction of species, poison in the food chain, war, terrorism,

cyber hacking, biological warfare. This means extinction, this means extinction,

and it also means insanity. So if we do not agree that the world is insane,

then we are declaring our insanity. So that's where I am. The world is insane. I've accepted that,

and I'm at peace.

Welcome. My guest today needs no introduction, but I'm going to give you one anyway,

because I have my own special story to tell you. In 1992, I published my first book,

it was called A Return to Love. And while I was writing the book, I read a book by someone I

had never read before. I had never heard of this author before. He was a doctor, and he talked

about how, when he was in medical school, they were experimenting with rabbits, and I don't know

something with rabbits, and the medical students started cuddling the rabbits and just stroking

them and stuff, because they were so cute. And he found the extraordinary physical changes that

occurred in terms of the health of the rabbits. So I thought that this was so in line with everything

I was talking about, writing about a return to love. So I spoke of this author, I spoke of this book,

I spoke of this experiment, his name, Deepak Chopra. I remember thinking the name was kind of

otic, because I'd never heard that name before. I even remember when my friend Ariel Ford used to

come to my lectures in those days, said, I'm going to call him and tell him, I'm going to sell his

cassette tapes, those were the days when all of us had these little cassette tapes of our lectures.

So I've known Deepak for a while, 1992, now I've known him about 30 years, and what an honor it

has been to know him, to learn from him. I'm an avid reader of his books, and I love him like we

all do. So I'm so grateful to have him on to the show today with me, to talk about not only his

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