Hey, everybody. Thank you so much for being with us today. I have two very special guests.

My first guest is Ra'ed Jarar, and he is the director of advocacy at Democracy for the

Arab World Now, or Dawn. Democracy for the Arab World Now is a non-profit organization

that promotes democracy, the rule of law, and human rights for all of the peoples of the

Middle East and North Africa. And then also we have Josh Lockman with us, Josh's

director of strategic initiatives for Jay Street. Jay Street believes the future of both

Israelis and Palestinians depends on achieving a two-state solution to their conflict and

then end to the ongoing occupation. So thank you, gentlemen. Both of you. Thank you so

much for being here. Thank you so much, Reen. Thank you. If you could just give me a minute

or two recap so people know where we're coming from. What my main interest today, my

main interest is this, the American political system has displayed an extraordinary ability

to resist change. There is an entrenched status quo that protects itself and has a way

of bending just enough to challenge, to make it appear that change might be possible.

And yet in situation after situation after situation, we find ourselves back to the status

quo. When it comes to the situation between Israel and Palestine, all three of us and millions

of other people around the world are in complete agreement that the status quo is unacceptable.

And also people realize that even though there's a ceasefire, there's almost a sense that

everybody's just waiting for the next bomb to drop. So I want to get as soon as possible

into the conversation that perhaps our leaders should be having and apparently are not having.

And that is what are we really going to do to move the needle? What are we going to do

as Americans? What are we going to do as concerned citizens who really care about what's happening

in Israel and Palestine, ending the occupation, dealing with apartheid, dealing with ethno-nationalism

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