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Welcome to the Bonus 8th episode of American Prodigy The Freddie Adieu Story.

I'm Grant Wall and I'm here today with somebody who's been here the entire time, but you haven't heard from yet.

You're going to hear from today.

Harry Swart out who produced this series, co-wrote it with me. Harry, how are you?

I'm good, Grant. It's fun to turn the tables on you and be able to ask you some

questions. I've sat through 24 interviews where you've been doing all the questions and now it's my turn.

Let's fire away.

Now you and I had known each other before working on American American Prodigy and you've said this in some of the interviews that I produced your weekly podcast at Sports Illustrated

and I helped you with SI throwback. But I want to know how this podcast came together

between you and me and what the timeline looked like.

You know, I have had this idea of wanting to do something ambitious on the Freddie

you do story for several years now, really probably probably four years going back to 2016.

And I wasn't sure if it was going to be a podcast series

or a written oral history or maybe a book but when you contacted me

it seemed like a podcast series would be the best way to go about it and yes there were a ton of challenges

with the pandemic that we'll talk about here but we had the time this past summer to start doing it.

Yeah, now you mentioned that you were going to, or at least you were thinking about making this a book,

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