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Welcome to the bonus eighth episode of American Prodigy, the Freddie Adieu story.

I'm Grant Wall, and I'm here today with somebody who's been here the entire time, but you

haven't heard from yet. You're going to

hear from today. Harry Swart out who produced this series co-wrote it with me. Harry, how are you?

I'm good, Grant. It's fun to turn the tables on you and be able to ask you some questions. I've

sat through 24 interviews where you've been doing all the questions, and now it's my turn.

That's fire away.

Now, you and I had known each other before working on American King Prodigy, and you've said this in some of the interviews that I produced your weekly podcast at Sports Illustrated, and I helped you with S.I.

Throwback, but I want to know how this podcast came together between you and me and what the timeline

looked like.

You know, I have had this idea of wanting to do something ambitious on the Freddie

to do story for several years now, really probably four years going back to 2016.

And I wasn't sure if it was going to be a podcast series

or a written oral history or maybe a book,

but when you contacted me,

it seemed like a podcast series would be the best way to go about it.

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