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Unexplained

S04 Episode 8 Extra: Mostly Dead is Slightly Alive

Unexplained

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Science, Society & Culture, History

4.49.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2019

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Today it is generally agreed that absolute death for humans comes only when the brain has irreversibly ceased to function.
However, a remarkable paper authored by a team of neuroscientist from Yale School of Medicine and published in April 2019, has reignited the debate over just what is and what isn’t irreversible.
Could what appears to be a dead brain, in fact still remain one with potential to regain consciousness?
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0:00.0

Welcome to Unexplained Extra, with me Richard McLean Smith, where for the weeks in between

0:15.8

episodes we look good stories and ideas that for one reason or other didn't make it into

0:20.6

the previous show.

0:22.6

In last week's episode, Death's Pale Flag, we explored the Haitian zombie myth through

0:28.0

the seemingly miraculous story of Clevver's Narcees.

0:32.4

In 1964, Clevver's was declared dead by two separate doctors and subsequently buried

0:38.4

underground, only to reappear in his home village 18 years later, very much alive.

0:46.4

Some thanks to the prevalence of the zombie myth in Haitian folklore were convinced that

0:52.0

Clevver's had himself returned from death as a zombie.

0:57.2

In 1982, ethno-botanist Wade Davis travelled to Haiti to investigate Clevver's story.

1:04.6

As it turned out, according to Davis, Clevver was just one of many individuals who would

1:09.8

have fallen victim to an apparent zombification process being carried out by voodoo priests

1:15.3

and returned for money.

1:17.8

After analysing a powder thought to have been used in this process, Wade found it to contain

1:22.5

traces of tetrodotoxin, a potent neurotoxin extracted from pufferfish.

1:29.3

Although even a small dose of tetrodotoxin is lethal to humans, with just the right amount,

1:35.2

its effects, including severe paralysis and the slowing of the body's metabolic rate,

1:40.6

can lead the recipient appearing clinically dead before they eventually recover from it.

1:46.6

With this thought weighed, account for Clevver's apparent resurrection.

1:52.8

Regardless of what exactly had happened, that Clevver's could ever have been declared dead

1:57.5

in the first place raises a deeply unsettling question.

2:02.0

Just how exactly do we determine whether somebody has well and truly died?

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