S03 E20: Kowalski Case Update with Ethen Shapiro

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, True Crime

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🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Join Andrea as she delves back into the ongoing legal battle of Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital, with Ethen Shapiro, the lead defense attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children's. They discuss the grounds for a retrial based on allegations of juror misconduct and the potential chilling effect on mandatory reporters following the substantial amount of money awarded to the Kowalski family by the jury. We also look at the the broader societal impacts on mandatory reporting and the protecting vulnerable children from abuse. * * * Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist on Spotify Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop Buy Andrea's books here. To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	True Story Media.
0:07.6	Before we begin, a quick warning that in this show, we discuss child abuse and this content may be difficult for some listeners.
0:14.3	If you or anyone you know is a victim or survivor of medical child abuse, please go to munchausen support.com to connect with professionals who can help.
0:23.4	As I've been discussing in these follow-up episodes to our third season, there is plenty more
0:28.8	left to play out in Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins, All Children's. The plot just continues to thicken.
0:36.0	And today, I wanted to zero in on what's happening in court
0:39.2	and what the outcome of this case could mean, not just for the Kowalskies, but for the future
0:44.5	of mandatory reporting laws and protections in this country.
0:51.1	People believe their eyes. That's something that actually is so central to this whole issue
0:58.3	and to people that experience this,
1:00.6	is that we do believe the people that we love
1:03.6	when they're telling us something.
1:05.2	If you questioned every thing that everyone told you,
1:08.7	you couldn't make it through your day.
1:11.8	I'm Andrea Dunlop, and this is Nobody Should Believe Me.
1:18.5	Welcome back to our extended season three.
1:21.7	Today we're going to be catching you up on where the Kowalski case stands.
1:25.4	So please listen to season three before jumping in, or if you want to
1:29.4	get up to speed in a hurry, you can listen to episodes one through four from last season, which I've
1:34.6	organized in a Spotify playlist that I will include in the show notes. And just as a reminder,
1:40.2	if you want even more new content, you can subscribe on Apple or Patreon, where you
1:46.1	will get at least two bonus episodes a month. Right now, I am deep diving the Justina
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