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Nobody Should Believe Me

S03 E19: What Happened to Beata?

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.23.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

This week's episode delves into the intricate details surrounding Beata Kowalski's death, which was central to the Kowalski's lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children's, as well as the documentary 'Take Care of Maya'. In court, Beata's death was presented as an act of maternal sacrifice and heroism. Through interviews and court deposition excerpts, we'll explore the odd circumstances leading up to and immediately after Beata's death that suggest a far more complex story might lie beneath the surface. * * * Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist on Spotify Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop Buy Andrea's books here. To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

True Story Media.

0:07.5

A heads up, the today's episode includes detailed descriptions of suicide. So if that's not

0:13.1

for you today, we'll see you next time.

0:17.4

Biotta Kowalski's tragic death by suicide in January of 2010 has played a huge role in how the

0:24.4

Kowalski's lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children's has played out. In court, the blame ultimately

0:31.0

went to Johns Hopkins as they are being asked to compensate the family for Biazza's death to the tune of

0:37.1

many millions of dollars.

0:39.1

This death was presented in the plaintiff's story as the ultimate act of motherly love, a heroic sacrifice to save her daughter.

0:48.2

Here is lead attorney Gregory Anderson in his closing arguments.

0:52.9

What else have they tried to say?

0:54.6

What are there other defenses?

0:56.1

Well, they blame Biazza for taking her own life.

1:01.4

And although we'll get into a lot of this more, the fact is that Biazza was reacting to a

1:08.2

maternal instinct that she had almost no, and in fact, no ability to control.

1:16.6

It was the same thing as a mother jumping out in front of a truck to push her two-year-old out of the way,

1:22.6

knowing that it would take her life. And when there's a competition between the maternal instinct and the self-preservation instinct,

1:31.4

the maternal instinct is going to win each time.

1:34.9

And in the film, Take Care of Maya, they draw a straight line between the judge not allowing

1:40.0

Bia to hug Maya in court during that final hearing to Biaa's death two days later.

1:46.6

It never made any sense to me why she was denied giving her child that hug.

1:53.8

And I can tell you as we left the courthouse that day, that Biata was devastated, devastated.

2:01.6

And the one thing that I know to this day is none of us can get that hug back now.

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