S E1193: In Class with Carr, Ep. 196: "What Does It Mean to Belong?"

This Is Karen Hunter

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Empowerment, Africana Studies, Greg Carr, Karen Hunter, History, Education, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 11 December 2023

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

The world that Norman Lear curated, including the black world, and the way that black cultural meaning makers like Esther Rolle and John Amos pushed back against him, are a lens for examining the difference between social structures and governance formations in Africana. And after those shows, the genealogy that Norman Lear tapped into, in part to continue an ongoing project of mingling his ethnicity with a fictional American identity, with the framing of Black people as the diminished citizenry, goes a long way toward helping us understand the contempt and pity with which others view us, and with which we so maddeningly and too often view ourselves.

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0:00.0	This is Karen Hunter and welcome to the hub.
0:10.0	People heard about me and one of them was Mike Evans who was Lionel and All in the Family.
0:17.0	And he came to me one day and he said, oh look, I'm on this show called All in the Family.
0:22.0	And my part is just to walk on and to walk off part.
0:26.1	He said and I understand you a good writer and everybody's writing for the show.
0:31.0	So what I'd like you to do is I'd like you to write a the show, that centers on my character. And I put both our names on the taking in
0:40.6	the normally and we'll split the money. So I said okay. So I wrote this show in which I created
0:46.6	his mother and father, George and Louise Jefferson, and he took it in Norman Lear and two weeks later, said for it and that's how it all started.
0:56.0	But that really was the impetus that created.
1:00.0	The Jefferson, yeah.
1:01.0	Yeah.
1:02.0	Yeah. And so did you work on the Jefferson?
1:04.0	No.
1:05.0	Why?
1:06.0	Well, I pitched the show in 1971.
1:10.0	And he's first thing you know, I'm in New York said when I came into the office was America will never buy a black man calling white people
1:17.2	hunky in the sitcom. So then I pissed good times, which what became good times.
1:26.2	That was in 71 and good times
1:28.6	didn't come on the air until 1974.
1:32.3	And in that those three years, me and normally must have had at least 20 meetings. And the one note I got in every meeting without fail was you have to get rid of the father. A strong
1:44.6	black man don't work in a sitcom. So when it went on and went on when he did
1:52.1	mar and he introduced Esther O'L as Florida.
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