Today on the show, I join Michael McMillian of the Bigfoot Collectors Club podcast to discuss my top five favorite UFO cases.

So John Burroughs, along with his attorney and John McCain's approval, they all went to the veteran affairs and said, you need to help this guy.

You need to help him. And he won the case.

Yeah.

So this is the first documented case that the veteran affairs has said, this man was directly affected by a UFO event and his health deteriorated, and we got to help it.

That's insane.

Yeah.

That's mind-blowing.

Wow.

You are now somewhere in the skies with your host, Ryan Spray. I asked Ryan to bring in his top five UFO stories, his favorite encounter stories.

First of all, what I want to ask you this, what is in your mind what makes for a good UFO story?

A good UFO story for me is not the same prototypical thing over and over again.

So I do tell people, I am a little armchair researcher. I am.

I do the show. I write articles about it, but I'm not like these individuals who work

for the mutual UFO network, Mufon, who go out there and actually investigate. I've done that

several times, and I love doing it. But I like relaying stories. I am definitely a relayer of

stories and information. So, yeah, I'd say it's probably like an 80, 20 sort of percentage that I'm actually out there boots on the ground. Right, right, right. Yeah, I think I'd be scared of some of the stuff I might find. I'm not going to live on some of the stories on your podcast, I would be too.

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So what's your, should we go from least favorite to favorite, like your

bottom to top, or these entering particular orders? It's a countdown list. Yeah. Countdown list. You want to do a

countdown style? A countdown, cool. So number five. Yeah. Number five. For number five, I would have to go with

probably Roswell. I mean, it's an easy one to sort of go to, but it is also kind of what we have and to prove that there is a UFO cover-up.

Right.

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