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Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Daily Stoke Podcast. Today we've got a special episode. I'm interviewing someone that you probably haven't heard of, his name is Brent Underwood, but he's someone that I talked to three, four, sometimes five times a day.

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2012 before any of my books, it came out. He actually started as my intern and he worked at Braschek, which is my marketing company for a very long time.

And he proved himself to be so talented and capable and creative that he ended up becoming a partner in the company. And so when Braschek started Daily Stoic, I was writing the book Daily Stoic and I had this idea, hey, what if we built out a website about it and an email list.

And then maybe there could be products at some point or a podcast. It was natural that Brent would be a big part of that because we were applying for the first time a lot of the advice that we've been giving to clients over the years. It was our turn, sort of do those things internally.

So Brent has been an integral part of Daily Stoic over the last three plus years. And in fact, many of you may have heard of Daily Stoic through something Brent set up, whether it was an email funnel or an article that he promoted or one of the social media accounts that he put up.

Brent is, I do the writing, I make this stuff and Brent is the one who helps me bring it to the world. He helped realize our first products. I remember I was walking through the Austin airport and I've been thinking about momentum, I had this idea that I wanted to do like a momentum, more a tangible like totem that you could carry around.

And I called them and I said, Brent, I have this idea. I want to do momentum, more like coin, like a challenge coin, something you can carry in your pocket. And I was like, there's got to be like a mint that makes these that you could get to make us something cool. And from that came one of the first products we did for Daily Stoic. And now, you know, tens of thousands of people carry this all over the world. So Brent is just been a great partner and collaborator of mine and a long time fan and follower of the still ex.

Obviously, that's sort of a prerequisite for working with Daily Stoic or with me. And Brent's got a lot of range. You know, we talked about David Epstein's stuff when I, when Brent was my intern at brass check, he also had a backpacker hostel in Brooklyn. And then he moved to Austin and he set one up here, which I'm one of the investors in. We own some properties together.

And then more recently, he took this big swing crazy gamble and he bought a ghost town near death Valley called Sarah Gordo, which he's been in the process of specking out into this sort of resort.

And I remember we were talking on the phone a couple of weeks ago as the quarantine had sort of come to Texas and Brent was going stir crazy in his apartment. And I said, hey, you know, look, obviously we can see each other, but you're welcome to come sort of walk around on the farm anytime you want. If you need to get some space.

And it's like, you know what, would it be crazy if I just got in my car and I drove to Sarah Gordo. And I said, no, I actually think it would probably be fascinating. And he did it. And so he's been there the last couple weeks.

He's actually just in the New York Post doing a profile on him because, you know, that's a weird place to be locked down. But you know, that's Brent style. And so we've been doing more interviews Brent with someone I wanted to talk to as I think you guys will find his story relatable.

I think it's sort of a peak behind the curtain on how daily stoic works. And he's just a fascinating guy. So here is my conversation with Brent Underwood. I'm here in Austin. And he is out in Sarah Gordo.

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