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The Psychology Podcast

Ryan Holiday || Lives of the Stoics

The Psychology Podcast

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Social Sciences, Science

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Today it is great to have Ryan Holiday on the podcast. Holiday is one of the world’s foremost thinkers and writers on ancient philosophy and its place in everyday life. He is a sought-after speaker, strategist and the author of many bestselling books including The Obstacle Is the Way: The Timeless Art of Turning Trials into Triumph, Ego Is the Enemy, The Daily Stoic: 366 Meditations on Wisdom, Perseverance, and the Art of Living , and the number one New York Times bestseller Stillness is the Key. His books have been translated into over thirty languages, and been read by over two million people. He lives outside Austin, Texas with his family, and his most recent book is Lives of the Stoics: The Art of Living from Zeno to Marcus Aurelius. Time Stamps [00:01:10] Stoicism and "works over words" [00:04:04] Modern day Stoicism [00:05:16] Knowledge for knowledge’s sake vs. practical purposes of philosophy [00:06:58] The four virtues of Stoicism [00:07:59] Living well versus living the good life [00:10:04] The founding fathers and Stoicism [00:11:18] Ryan’s writing vs. academic writing [00:17:43] The deeply personal Meditations by Marcus Aurelius [00:19:21] Zeno the Prophet and the founding of Stoicism [00:20:41] Living in harmony with nature [00:22:16] How COVID-19 has given Ryan perspective on being zoomed into life [00:25:33] Eastern and Western conceptions of stillness [00:29:30] The relationship between Stoicism and humor [00:30:11] Aristo the Challenger and the influence of cynicism on Stoicism [00:31:01] Zeno the Maintainer and the repetition of names in Roman times [00:33:38] Antipater the Ethicist and transcending individual selfishness [00:37:56] Panaetius the connector and Stoicism beyond virtue [00:39:36] Women in Stoicism and Portia Cato [00:40:58] “Cancelling” Stoicism and the tearing down of Confederate statues [00:44:48] Posidonius the Genius and the battle between our lower urges and higher nature [00:46:26] The omission of frivolity in Stoic writing [00:48:16] Cato: Roman among the Romans [00:51:58] Epictetus and the nature of freedom [00:54:27] How Marcus Aurelius became the emperor of Rome [00:57:13] How Ryan has grown since his earliest engagements with and writings on Stoic philosophy --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-psychology-podcast/support

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Psychology Podcast, where we give you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity.

0:13.0

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman,

0:15.0

and in each episode I have a conversation with a guest

0:18.0

who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater understanding

0:20.0

of yourself, others, and the world we live in.

0:23.0

Hopefully we'll also provide a glimpse into human possibility.

0:27.0

Thanks for listening and on the podcast. Holiday is one of the

0:37.7

world's foremost thinkers and writers on ancient philosophy and its place

0:41.0

in everyday life. He is a sought after speaker,

0:43.6

strategist, and the author of many best-selling books including the

0:47.1

obstacle is the way, ego is the enemy, the daily stoic, and the number one

0:50.6

New York Times bestseller stillness is the key.

0:53.0

His books have been translated into over 30 languages and read by over 2 million people

0:57.8

worldwide. He lives outside Austin, Texas with his family. His most recent book is Lives of the Stoics, The Art of Living, from

1:05.6

Zeno to Marcus Aurelius, and he'll let me know if I mispronounce those names.

1:10.0

Okay, so I want to start with Seneca.

1:13.3

He talked about turning words into works, you know, which puts works over words.

1:18.3

Now I really think this is super interesting, his philosophy of philosophy, of the point of philosophy.

1:23.4

Like first of all can you explain what that means and then second of all like how pervasive

1:27.5

do you think that idea was among the stokes because it kind of counters a lot of the

1:31.4

stereotypes about Stoicism.

1:34.0

Sure, so like when people think of Plato, they think, okay this was this philosopher who had

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