Today is August 19, 2025. It is Talking Giants brought to you by Seekkeek. And we had Ryan Dunleavy on from The New York Post. Really enjoyed this conversation. We touched on a lot. And I mean, Ryan at the end of it was like complimenting me on all the stuff I was bringing up. Like Justin, you're hitting all the notes. And I'm like, hell yeah, Ryan, let's go. Talked about Jackson Dart starting week one, not like should he,

but there is, whether it be like it or not, building national pressure

and a building national conversation on how the Giants should play Jackson Dart week one

or even just in general sooner rather than later.

We talk about that dynamic. And the things at play

for Brian Dable and Joe Shane's New York Giants where so much of the last two years has been

about perception and public perception and the things that they've said to defend themselves

as the last couple of years have gone on because certainly the wins and losses have not

been defensible, right? So we talked about all the things that play Jackson Dart starting

early on in the year. Really had a fascinating Bobby O'Caricay conversation as well that expands

upon kind of new information that he played for an extended period of the game with the backups.

He didn't leave the game with the starting defense.

He was out there in Darius Mollosu and Micah McFadden wearing the green dot at certain points of that Jets preseason game.

So really some new fascinating tidbits and Ryan's perspective on Bobby O'Carica

and how that relationship, a dynamic is going. Talked about Evan Neal rotation, Marcus Bo,

Malik neighbors, Andrew Thomas, some of their injury timelines. And also, I really am fascinated

on how the back end of this roster is going to shake out.

At the beginning of the summer, I wasn't,

and you can probably pull up a clip of me during a training camp live stream

saying, I'm not really interested because the roster is really sorted out

and, you know, there's not a lot of spots up for grabs.

But now with Bryce Ford Wheaton's injury and Cam Scataboo, probably going to miss the early part of the year and wind up on some sort of IR or Pup list or whatever kind of list he'll wind up on, who is going to take those spots? And what are they going to be doing? Because clearly, like, Turbo Miller is going to be doing more than just being the third running back uh whoever's going to be wide receiver five and six whether that be montra

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