Welcome to the Audible presented by Trader Joe.

I'm Stuart Mandel, joined as always for Bruce Feldman to talk a little college football.

Bruce, I don't think our podcast is going to be the one rising to the top of the charts

this week since neither of us had the world's biggest pop star show up at a football

game we're playing in.

So I don't think we're going to get that same Taylor Swift pop.

And maybe we can get the Ryan Day Lou Holtz drama pop since it continues to be in the news.

Yeah, Lou Holtz double down on it, right?

I think you and I were pretty clear on how we felt about it the other day.

I will ask you this and our friend and friend of the pod Ralph Russo.

He tweeted something the other day that caught my eye and it was this.

I'm begging Jet Speedwriters at least one of whom is a dare friend.

Please stop asking Joe Neymeth about the team.

Now that that is in reference to Joe Neymeth, you know, broadside and Zach Wilson.

And I think the question is sometimes and look, Joe Neymeth is a Jets legend and a football legend.

But I think the question sometimes is when you have somebody who's in their 80s,

you know, is it fair game for them to to be in the middle of a media controversy with some of this?

Well, you're a huge Pat McAfee fan.

It was on the Pat McAfee fan.

That's what I keep going back to.

It wasn't like some tweet or some obscure.

I mean, that's a very high profile show, a very big valuable piece of real estate on ESPN

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