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🗓️ 23 April 2023
⏱️ 121 minutes
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In this episode, William Green talks with Jason Karp, a prodigiously talented investor & entrepreneur whom he also profiled in his book, “Richer, Wiser, Happier.” Jason founded Tourbillon Capital Partners, where he managed $4.5 billion. He then quit the hedge fund business & created HumanCo, a holding company that invests in the health & wellness sector. Here, he speaks with extraordinary candor about his relentless quest for financial & professional success, & how his obsession with overachievement almost destroyed him.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
00:00 - Intro
04:27 - How Jason Karp switched from underachiever to “hyper-neurotic overachiever.”
09:32 - How his obsession with productivity devastated his health.
25:01 - How he transformed his health, healing diseases that seemed incurable.
35:34 - What he learned about how to eat well for health & longevity.
53:13 - Why it’s helpful to “confuse your body” with random stressors.
54:32 - How the best investors succeed by deferring gratification.
1:09:17 - How Jason simplifies his life to reduce the impact of “decision fatigue.”
1:13:37 - How he designed his hedge fund’s offices to promote productivity & good health.
1:25:08 - What’s helped him most in dealing with his mental health challenges.
1:25: 25 - How he came to be suicidally depressed at the pinnacle of his investment career.
1:28:24 - How he thinks about money, family, happiness, & fulfillment.
1:29:24 - Why founding a health & wellness conglomerate brought him a new level of joy.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to TIP. |
0:02.9 | Hi there, I'm really excited to introduce today's guest, Jason Cup, who's one of the most |
0:08.2 | interesting and thoughtful investors I've ever interviewed. |
0:12.0 | At first glance, Jason is the ultimate overachiever. |
0:15.9 | As an economic student at Wharton, he came in the top four in his class. |
0:20.6 | The same time, he was an exceptional athlete to compete as an academic or American and |
0:26.4 | all Ivy squash player. |
0:28.3 | After graduating summer cum laude from college, he became an extremely successful investor, |
0:33.6 | racking up superb returns as a portfolio manager at high profile firms like SAC Capital. |
0:40.2 | He then founded his own investment firm, Turbion Capital Partners, and launched one of the |
0:45.2 | hottest hedge fund startups in history. |
0:47.9 | At Turbion, he rapidly attracted more than $4 billion in assets, and he got off to such |
0:53.7 | an impressive start that he won the institutional Investor Award for emerging hedge fund manager |
0:59.4 | of the year back in 2015. |
1:02.7 | It all sounds pretty glorious and almost effortless rise to success, but under the surface, |
1:08.8 | the story was a whole lot darker and more painful. |
1:12.8 | As you'll hear in today's episode, Jason was so relentlessly driven and intense that |
1:18.6 | he almost destroyed himself both physically and emotionally. |
1:22.9 | When I interviewed him for my book, Richard Weiserhappier, he told me that he'd been clinically |
1:27.6 | depressed during the last few years that he worked at Turbion, and that it felt as if his |
1:33.2 | soul was decaying because trading stocks seemed relatively hollow and meaningless to him. |
1:39.6 | After a couple of years of poor performance, he took a radical step, returning his investors |
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