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RWH026: Wealth & Health w/ Jason Karp

The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network

Stig Brodersen

Education, Investing, Business

4.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2023

⏱️ 121 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, William Green talks with Jason Karp, a prodigiously talented investor & entrepreneur whom he also profiled in his book, “Richer, Wiser, Happier.” Jason founded Tourbillon Capital Partners, where he managed $4.5 billion. He then quit the hedge fund business & created HumanCo, a holding company that invests in the health & wellness sector. Here, he speaks with extraordinary candor about his relentless quest for financial & professional success, & how his obsession with overachievement almost destroyed him. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 04:27 - How Jason Karp switched from underachiever to “hyper-neurotic overachiever.” 09:32 - How his obsession with productivity devastated his health. 25:01 - How he transformed his health, healing diseases that seemed incurable. 35:34 - What he learned about how to eat well for health & longevity. 53:13 - Why it’s helpful to “confuse your body” with random stressors. 54:32 - How the best investors succeed by deferring gratification. 1:09:17 - How Jason simplifies his life to reduce the impact of “decision fatigue.” 1:13:37 - How he designed his hedge fund’s offices to promote productivity & good health. 1:25:08 - What’s helped him most in dealing with his mental health challenges. 1:25:25 - How he came to be suicidally depressed at the pinnacle of his investment career. 1:28:24 - How he thinks about money, family, happiness, & fulfillment. 1:29:24 - Why founding a health & wellness conglomerate brought him a new level of joy. Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, and the other community members. Jason Karp’s company, HumanCo. Hu Chocolate brand co-created by Jason Karp. Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers by Robert Sapolsky. Undo It! by Dean Ornish M.D. & Anne Ornish The Longevity Diet by Valter Longo. Peter Attia’s book Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity Young Forever by Dr. Mark Hyman Tara Brach’s book, “Radical Acceptance,” & her website.  How To Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan. William Green’s book, “Richer, Wiser, Happier” – read the reviews of this book. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: River Toyota Sun Life The Bitcoin Way Range Rover Sound Advisory BAM Capital Fidelity SimpleMining Briggs & Riley Public Shopify Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:02.9

Hi there, I'm really excited to introduce today's guest, Jason Cup, who's one of the most

0:08.2

interesting and thoughtful investors I've ever interviewed.

0:12.0

At first glance, Jason is the ultimate overachiever.

0:15.9

As an economic student at Wharton, he came in the top four in his class.

0:20.6

The same time, he was an exceptional athlete to compete as an academic or American and

0:26.4

all Ivy squash player.

0:28.3

After graduating summer cum laude from college, he became an extremely successful investor,

0:33.6

racking up superb returns as a portfolio manager at high profile firms like SAC Capital.

0:40.2

He then founded his own investment firm, Turbion Capital Partners, and launched one of the

0:45.2

hottest hedge fund startups in history.

0:47.9

At Turbion, he rapidly attracted more than $4 billion in assets, and he got off to such

0:53.7

an impressive start that he won the institutional Investor Award for emerging hedge fund manager

0:59.4

of the year back in 2015.

1:02.7

It all sounds pretty glorious and almost effortless rise to success, but under the surface,

1:08.8

the story was a whole lot darker and more painful.

1:12.8

As you'll hear in today's episode, Jason was so relentlessly driven and intense that

1:18.6

he almost destroyed himself both physically and emotionally.

1:22.9

When I interviewed him for my book, Richard Weiserhappier, he told me that he'd been clinically

1:27.6

depressed during the last few years that he worked at Turbion, and that it felt as if his

1:33.2

soul was decaying because trading stocks seemed relatively hollow and meaningless to him.

1:39.6

After a couple of years of poor performance, he took a radical step, returning his investors

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