Ruth Wilson Gilmore Makes the Case for Abolition (Part 1)

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🗓️ 10 June 2020

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Chenjerai Kumanyika, assistant professor of journalism and media studies at Rutgers University, hosts a special two part discussion. Kumanyika is co-host of the podcasts Uncivil and Scene on Radio. He is an organizer with 215 People’s Alliance, and the Debt Collective. He is joined for this special episode of Intercepted by the iconic geographer and abolitionist Ruth Wilson Gilmore, author of "Golden Gulag: Prisons, Surplus, Crisis, and Opposition in Globalizing California." Gilmore is one of the world’s preeminent scholars on prisons and the machinery of carceral punishment and policing. In this discussion, she offers a sweeping and detailed analysis of the relentless expansion and funding of police and prisons, and how locking people in cages has become central to the American project. Gilmore offers a comprehensive road map for understanding how we have arrived at the present political moment of brutality and rebellion, and she lays out the need for prison abolition and defunding police forces.

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0:00.0	Now I'm gonna hit my order, everless cry
0:07.0	He come in early morning, everless cry
0:14.0	He go by midnight, everless cry
0:20.0	He goes, we're gonna go home to the flat, everless cry
0:32.0	The thing that set in motion, the events that resulted in Mr. Floyd's brutal murder
0:43.0	was that an employee at a convenience store
0:48.0	saw that they had been handed a counterfeit bill
0:55.0	This young person, I assume is young, who's probably making minimum wage
1:01.0	who works for somebody who I understand to be a very decent human being
1:05.0	who hires people in the community of Palestinian-American convenience store owner
1:10.0	did their job to keep their job
1:13.0	but we have to ask ourselves, why couldn't it be they take this suspect looking bill
1:20.0	complete the transaction and then deal with it afterward
1:25.0	right? They have been deputized
1:28.0	why is somebody working a convenience store a deputy cop?
1:34.0	This is a question
1:40.0	This is intercepted
1:47.0	This is intercepted
2:07.0	I'm Chen Jurai Kumanika
2:09.0	I'm an assistant professor of journalism and media studies at Rutgers University
2:13.0	I'm the co-host and creator of the Uncivil Podcast
2:16.0	coming to you from my home in Philadelphia
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