The simple answer is University of Cambridge, United Kingdom.

And why is it the best we can do at this point?

The identification of the place that all this took place, Cambridge University,

why is it redacted from the very first?

Who is that important to?

I mean, just to say the dinner took place at Cambridge

in Richard Dearloves' quarters,

what's the deal that they don't want to have their name use?

Right.

Well, John, all you can do and I can do is speculate.

But of course, with the benefit of historical hindsight, I think we can have a good, good

go at it.

So that document had a bit of a history.

So the document we're talking about is the newly declassified document, which was declassified

in March 2025, and then it took

a few weeks for it to get released. And it's a document which you would call, you know, the

sort of technical name for it. It's called the 302. So the 302 is an FBI recording of an interview.

It could be with anyone.

In this particular case, it's an interview with a CHS.

What's the CHS?

It's a confidential human source.

Who was the confidential human source in this particular case?

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