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Russia-Ukraine War & Risks of NATO-Russia Escalation | Dmitri Alperovitch

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Government, Business

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 235 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with the fmr. CTO and co-founder of CrowdStrike Dmitri Alperovitch about the latest developments in the war between Russia and Ukraine, including the risks of escalation between Russia & NATO, implications for US-Sino relations, cyberattacks against Western countries, political warfare, and much more.

Dmitri Alperovitch was on this podcast late last year for an episode titled “Why Putin Plans to Invade Ukraine,” in which he explained why he was convinced that Vladimir Putin was going to invade Ukraine in January or February of 2022. It was a controversial view at the time that proved to be absolutely correct in retrospect. Kofinas asked him back on the podcast to help explain (1) why so many people struggled to see this war coming, (2) the ramifications of Putin’s actions, including his strategic and perhaps, even messianic motivations, (3) risks of escalation, (4) pathways for de-escalation, (5) the implications of this war for US-Sino relations in negotiations over Taiwan, (6) the remilitarization of Germany and the strategic security of Europe, (7) and much more. Dmitri’s background in cybersecurity and forensic analysis also proved useful during a discussion about cyber warfare and the dangers of cyber escalation on the part of Russia in responding to Western economic sanctions.

The primary objective of today’s episode is to bring you up-to-speed on the latest developments in this geopolitical drama, with the larger, more long-term goal of helping you wrap your arms around some of the more nuanced aspects of the diplomatic crisis so that you know what to focus on, who listen to, and how to think about the types of risks that all of us face going forward.

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Episode Recorded on 03/04/2022

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's up everybody? My name is Demetra Cafinas and you're listening to Hidden Forces,

0:06.0

a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs and everyday citizens to challenge consensus narratives

0:14.0

and to learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world.

0:19.0

Before I introduce today's guest, I have a couple of quick announcements.

0:23.0

Number one, given the war in Ukraine and given the larger geopolitical conflict between Russia and the US and Europe,

0:31.0

I've decided that I'll be recording and publishing more than one episode a week going forward

0:35.0

with the immediate goal of updating much of the coverage we'd already done in anticipation of this conflict

0:42.0

in order to bring you all up to speed on the latest developments

0:46.0

and with the larger, more long-term goal of helping you all wrap your arms around some of the more nuanced aspects of this geopolitical crisis

0:55.0

so that you know what to focus on, who to listen to, and how to think about the types of risks that all of us face going forward.

1:04.0

That's number one. Number two, because the focus is going to be on getting episodes scheduled, recorded and published sooner rather than later,

1:13.0

the intelligence reports and transcripts for these episodes will either lag the publication of the episode itself

1:20.0

or we may just focus on giving you more of the things that are most important within these reports

1:26.0

like links to educational resources so you can dig deeper, articles that I've been reading in preparation for these episodes,

1:33.0

as well as lists of people to follow in order to stay up to speed and more importantly in the loop on what is most important to focus on.

1:43.0

Now, moving on to today's episode and to my guest, Dimitri Alpera,

1:48.0

Dimitri is the former CTO and co-founder of CrowdStrike, the largest cybersecurity company in the world

1:55.0

and the current chairman of the non-profit Silverado Policy Accelerator.

2:00.0

He was on the podcast a little over two months ago for a discussion about why he was convinced in late last year

2:07.0

that Vladimir Putin had every intention to invade Ukraine in January or February of this year.

2:14.0

It was a very controversial view at the time, but unfortunately he proved to be absolutely correct in his assessment.

2:22.0

So I wanted to have him back on the show today to understand not only why so many people struggled to see this work coming,

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