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Fareed Zakaria GPS

Russia’s ongoing attack on Ukraine

Fareed Zakaria GPS

CNN

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4.23.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Gen. David Petraeus (Ret.) and Adm. James Stavridis (Ret.) join Fareed to discuss this phase of the war in Ukraine, and the crucial question for Ukraine’s economy- getting through Russia's Black Sea blockade. Then, Fareed asks CNN global economic analyst Rana Foroohar what's behind red-hot inflation and how the government can get prices under control. Plus, Tarek Masoud, professor of Democracy & Governance at Harvard University, on the promise and peril of Biden's upcoming trip to Saudi Arabia. GUESTS: James Stavridis (@stavridisj), David Petraeus, Rana Foroohar (@RanaForoohar), Tarek Masoud. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is GPS, the Global Public Square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.

0:07.0

I'm Farid Zakaria coming to you live from New York.

0:11.0

Today on the program, what would it take for Ukraine to win this war?

0:17.0

I'll put that question to two of America's top former military officials,

0:21.0

General David Patreyes and Admiral James Stavridas.

0:25.0

Also, did the commander-in-chief do an about face on Saudi Arabia?

0:30.0

Do gas prices trump human rights? I'll ask an expert.

0:35.0

And the Federal Reserve acts boldly to try to get inflation under control.

0:40.0

Will it work? I will ask Rana Faruha.

0:45.0

But first, here's my take.

0:48.0

In 1942, Winston Churchill tried to ready the British people for a long conflict,

0:54.0

referring to the Allied victory in Egypt, he said,

0:57.0

this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end.

1:02.0

But it is perhaps the end of the beginning.

1:06.0

When we think of it in those terms, what phase are we witnessing in the war in Ukraine?

1:12.0

We are likely in the middle, explains Gideon Rose, a scholar at the Council on Foreign Relations,

1:18.0

and the author of an excellent book, How War Is End.

1:22.0

He points out that every war begins like a chess game,

1:26.0

with a dramatic attack and a defense.

1:28.0

If those opening salvos do not produce a decisive victory,

1:32.0

the war enters a middle phase, in which both sides try to slog it out to gain advantage on the battlefield.

1:39.0

He told me, during the middle phase, neither side is interested in negotiating

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