This is a series of cb-s I in the world. I'm John Bachelor. Christmas 2023.

You all recall the visit of the president of Ukraine,. Zelensky to the Oval Office to

sit with President Biden. You will not recall the name Jessica Devlin.

Jessica Devlin had a revelation at Christmas time that not only was entirely false but also

is a revelation of how the Ukraine is being pummeled not only on the battlefield, but in social media by actors for the FSB for

Kremlin for Putin himself I welcome Ivana Stradner from the Foundation for the

Defense of democracies who's my guide on these matters of information

warfare and how it works in America, despite our transparency, despite our

ability to fact check, how it is that we're overwhelmed with details on a daily basis

and don't always follow the chain of evidence to falsehood.

Avana, a very good evening to you.

Who is, who was, who's supposed to be?

Jessica Devlin, good evening to you.

Good evening, thank you very much for inviting me.

Apparently, she's supposed to be some sort of a journalist

that nobody has ever heard of and she spread false information right around Zelensky's latest trip to the United States

when he sought military support, seen a series of new stories in social media

amplifications, there are like anonymous actors basically accused what

they call a corrupt Zelenskyo purchasing a 20 million mention in Florida

and becoming an American citizen and it was immediately shared on social media

platforms with several million news. So the real question was who

wrote that story and that story was written by someone who was called Jessica Devlin that apparently does not exist and her

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