Hi, Gary Stearman, my pleasure to have in studio today, Russ Brealt, welcome to Prophecy Watchers.

Gary, it's my pleasure to be here again. Thank you.

And we're going to get it off the ground today by talking about a particular shroud encounter

DVD called Secrets of the Man, Clothed and Lennon.

Everybody knows about the Shrout of Turin, I should think, by now. This one comes

at that whole question in a little different way. Yes, it does. You know, I've always

been intrigued. You know, when you come to the Shroud, there's a lot of science, a lot of history,

and all that's very interesting.

But I've always been drawn to the message and the meaning of the shroud.

And it's in keeping with that, and I have to, I have to blame this presentation on you.

And you were the genesis of it.

And because in all of your conferences that you had over the years,

you've invited me out to several of them.

And every time I try to pull together new material.

And so now we're coming up, we do two presentations every time I'm with you.

And then this was the fifth time.

So now I've done eight presentations all on the shroud, and I'm tapped out.

I don't have anything new to present at that point.

And so I'm preparing for this conference, and I don't know what I'm going to do it on.

And so I just, I have the Bible in my hand, and I just, you know how you just randomly flip to something.

Yeah.

So I just randomly flip to it, and it opens at Ezekiel chapter 9.

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