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The Town with Matthew Belloni

Running a Major Talent Agency in 2025 With the New CEO of UTA

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.3847 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by David Kramer, the new CEO of United Talent Agency, to discuss his new position, how the talent representation business has changed, industry challenges like the content slowdown, the transition from linear to streaming, labor unrest, AI, and the end of packaging. They also discuss whether private equity has been good or bad for the agency business and how the talent pay structure is changing (03:03). Matt finishes the show with an opening weekend box office prediction for ‘How to Train Your Dragon’ (26:47). For a 20 percent discount on Matt’s Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I’m Hearing ...,’ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Email us your thoughts! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: Matt Belloni Guest: David Kramer Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie LopezTheme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:13.5

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It is Wednesday, June 11th.

1:09.2

It's quite an interesting time to run a Hollywood talent agency.

1:12.5

So many of the issues we talk about on the town, the content recession, the painful transition from TV to streaming, the labor unrest, AI.

1:20.1

All those challenges are trickling down to the agencies, which are still the unofficial gatekeepers for thousands and thousands of talented people in entertainment.

1:28.4

The agencies used to literally package TV shows and take big fees.

1:31.9

Now, the writer's girl says they can't do that.

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