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Engagement Party

Run, Hide, Fight

Engagement Party

CNN

News, Society & Culture, Entertainment News, Arts

4.6986 Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

We have trained a generation of people how to think about, respond to, and survive a mass shooting, including children. Educators and law enforcement officials have developed curricula for schools to help teachers and students survive a shooting. The foundation for this teaching comes in large part from the work of Katherine Schweit. She is a former FBI Agent, author of the book, “Stop the Killing: How to End the Mass Shooting Crisis,” and co-host of the podcast Stop the Killing. At the time of the Sandy Hook shooting she realized that training and education would be key in preventing more deaths. She developed the active shooter training program for the FBI. Its mantra of “Run, Hide, Fight” is now an essential element in mass shooting education. Audie talks with Katherine about how she came to this work, and what it’s like to do it in the midst of political paralysis. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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For a while in my office, I had this little white plastic cup.

0:51.4

It was hidden behind the door, and it had these cards tucked inside.

0:57.7

They were notes and reminders of what to do in case of a mass shooting. Like a lot of people,

1:05.0

my employer required me to attend a seminar where the local police walked us through what they

1:10.6

know about mass shooters

1:12.0

and what officers would do if one came to our door. Pursue the killer first, help the wounded

1:18.5

later. And they talked about what I should do in that scenario. Run, hide, fight. Yeah, you should. That's my fault. That's Catherine Schweite,

1:34.2

and she's our single guest today because the fact that schools now do active shooter drills

1:39.2

with this message is, as she says, her fault. Well, not totally, but at this point, it's now conventional

1:47.4

wisdom from law enforcement, including at the FBI where she helped create their active shooter

1:53.1

program. Remember, run, hide, or fight. Run. Wherever you go, be aware of alternate exits.

2:04.4

And then there's this whole industry of private security types, spreading the message and

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