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This is CBS. I on the world. I'm John Bachelord. Continuing a conversation with Joseph Tarigian, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, his new book,

The Party Interest Come First.

The title is Mao Tse Tung's opinion of our protagonist, Xi Zhongshun, the father of Xi Jinping,

the General Secretary of the People's Republic of China.

It is fall of 1935, and here comes Mao and the long marchers.

They've been wandering around without a sure destination, and Joseph tells me that Mao read about

Shang-ji province in a newspaper.

Mao shows up and where's our hero?

Joseph, why was he detained at this point when Mao wrote in with the long marches?

What did he done?

A she.

So this is certainly a dramatic moment in the life of Xi Zhongshin, the father of Xi Jinping.

Xi Zhongshin was a revolutionary in the northwest.

But during this period, there was a lot of mistrust among the communists.

And some of them thought they should be more ambitious and aggressive.

And some of them thought they should be more careful and not get themselves killed.

And normally, this would just be a dispute among people with reasonable different of opinions,

but in the Chinese Communist Party, it wasn't that simple.

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