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Arts & Ideas

Rule Making and Rule Breaking for Women and Men.

Arts & Ideas

BBC

Society & Culture

4.2599 Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2015

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Do men and women have different attitudes to rule breaking? With changing ideas about gender, can we say that our minds are wired differently? Helen Fraser, head of the Girls' Day School Trust said recently that 'being the compliant girl is never going to get you anywhere'. What are the rules today for relationships and getting on in society? Is it time to throw out received ideas and challenge the advice given to young people?

Free Thinking presenter Rana Mitter chairs a debate with a panel featuring :

Sheila Hancock - actress and author of three non-fiction books and a novel Miss Carter's War

Journalist Bim Adewunmi - culture editor at Buzz Feed UK, who writes often about popular culture and how it intersects with gender and race

Neil Bartlett, theatre director and author whose most recent novel is The Disappearance Boy

Jonny Mitchell, the headmaster in Channel 4's Educating Yorkshire and now the Head of the Co-operative Academy of Leeds.

Recorded in front of an audience at the Free Thinking Festival at Sage Gateshead.

Producer: Zahid Warley.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron. Evil genius. He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it. That's like hiding at your own funeral. Yeah, a big, great gig. I'm Russell Kane. Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius. Becoming that rich, I'd say that is some level of genius. It also helps that it's a long time ago, right?

0:23.3

It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream van plays music

0:27.0

when it's out of ice cream.

0:28.8

Listen to Evil Genius on BBC Sounds.

0:35.2

Whether it's Antigone, breaking the rules of ancient Greece by burying her brother,

0:40.2

suffragette, Emily Davison, throwing herself under the king's horse at the Derby,

0:44.7

or the exuberant Charlotte Crosby from Geordie Shaw,

0:47.7

getting up to all sorts of interesting things,

0:49.8

we know that women are no slouchers when it comes to breaking the rules.

0:54.2

But today, we're going to find out who's more likely to tear up the rulebook,

0:58.6

women, men, and whether they do it in different ways.

1:02.2

Here at Sage Gateshead today, we've got a panel who refused to be categorized

1:06.0

according to the ordinary rules.

1:07.8

Sheila Hancock is an Olivier Award-winning actor

1:10.2

who's worked with everyone from Joan Littlewood

1:12.2

to Dennis Waterman, but she's also a best-selling novelist.

1:16.2

Neil Bartlett is a playwright and producer who's recently curated a museum exhibition

1:21.6

on human sexuality at the Welcome Trust.

1:24.8

Bimande Wunmi writes for BuzzFeed UK.

1:27.6

And also trying to keep some sort of order

1:29.8

between the sexes here will be Johnny Mitchell,

1:32.1

the head teacher from the television documentary series

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