Well, hello, Gabe, hello, how are you? Oh, I feel great today.

Welcome to the Katie Halper show.

I'm your host, Katie Halper, and I'm always joined by Gabriel Pacheco.

Gabriel Pacheco. Great friend, great person.

By the way, I want everyone to know that Gabe, as listeners know, Gabe is of the Greek Mexican persuasion, and he is sitting here with a shirt that says as let me see move

a Aztec holidays and it has a picture of an Aztec man stabbing a sacrificial victim, is that how you call it?

Yeah, in the heart with a kind of knife. It's a call back, if you will, to the

Azex. Stabbing one of the chosen people, one of the honored. Yeah, one of the honored.

Oh yeah, yeah. Did you see that movie, Apocolipto?

Loved Apopo.

People hated it because it was Mel Gibson,

but I gotta say, beautiful cinematography

using real indigenous people and filming it entirely in their own language with no English.

So that was just groundbreaking.

So sure, you know, maybe he didn't get all the facts right,

but he did a better job than anyone else making

fictional adventure movies set in Mesoamerica.

And this, just so people know, this is a movie from 2006.

As the Mayan Kingdom faces its decline,

the rulers insist the key to prosperity is

to build more temples and offer human sacrifices.

Jaguar Pa, a young man captured for sacrifice, flees to avoid his fate.

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