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Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

RUBY FRANKE/JODI HILDEBRANDT SENTENCED: Criminal Psychologist Dr John Matthias reacts to their sentencing statements

Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

Hidden True Crime

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🗓️ 1 March 2024

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Dr John Matthias, forensic psychologist, breaks down Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt's sentencing statements.

Justice is served in a Utah courtroom on February 20th, 2024 in the case of YouTuber mom Ruby Franke and her therapist Jodi Hildebrandt. Hidden Host Lauren Matthias reported live from St George, Utah.

Host and psychologist Dr John Matthias now weighs in on the statements.

August 30, 2023--a brave 12-year-old boy escapes a house of torture in Southern Utah --rescuing himself and his 10-year-old sister. A neighbor feeds the emaciated boy and calls 911. The children's mother YouTube Celebrity Ruby Franke, and Ruby's therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, are arrested and charged with 6 counts of aggravated child abuse.

JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and consults on high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California. Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day.

LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor in Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah. In 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and is a regular contributor on News Nation. She left the reporting world to produce the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias.

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0:00.0

Dr. John is my husband, a clinical and forensic psychologist, a criminal psychologist.

0:06.0

I'm going to stop talking because we are all here to finally find out what you think, John. We should start with Ruby Frankie right

0:16.8

she made the most detailed statement she she gave the most detailed statement and

0:21.6

there's a lot of questions about what

0:23.6

I think what her statement meant I think many people that I've seen provide

0:28.9

feedback on this case feel like she was remorseful but you know that's a question mark for me and we'll talk

0:35.9

about why.

0:38.9

Hidden a true crime podcast a forensic psychologist and a journalist explore the hidden motives behind

0:46.8

unthinkable crimes while examining our deepest fears along the way. We are live.

0:54.0

We are

0:55.0

We are live.

1:00.0

We are live. It's time for another hidden hour. So good to see you too. John, I'm happy to spend an evening with you and with our gems. I was out of town for quite a lot of last week and I'm glad to be home and

1:16.8

glad to finally be talking to you about such a big story, a story that you and I have been following from the very beginning which is

1:27.5

Ruby Frankie the YouTube mother of the popular channel eight passengers that was arrested and charged with aggravated child abuse along with her therapist and mentor

1:39.1

Jody Hildebrandt they were arrested in southern Utah a place where I used to report, Ivan's Utah,

1:45.3

used to be a reporter there, and it was a very shocking story again a YouTube mother

1:50.0

and a therapist who were charged with the most horrendous acts on a child.

1:58.0

The sentencing, the judge, called it a concentration camp.

2:02.0

Documents have called it a concentration camp, documents have called it torture, some have said it's the worst case of child abuse they've ever seen,

2:08.0

RF and EF, the victims, a 10-year-old girl and a 12-year-old boy, are in state custody still.

2:14.5

They are working on healing and something they'll probably do for the rest of their lives because

2:18.4

of what was inflicted on them.

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