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RUBY FRANKE/JODI HILDEBRANDT CASE: Hildebrandt Unmasked. Forensic psychologist Dr John Matthias shows what's Hidden

Hidden True Crime

Hidden True Crime

Society & Culture, Documentary, News, True Crime, News Commentary

4.6 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2023

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

August 30, 2023--a brave 12-year-old boy escapes a house of torture in Southern Utah --rescuing himself and his 10-year-old sister. A neighbor feeds the emaciated boy and calls 911. The children's mother YouTube Celebrity Ruby Franke, and Ruby's therapist Jodi Hildebrandt, are arrested 250 miles north in Springville, Utah and charged with 6 counts of aggravated child abuse. TODAY WE AKS: WHY IS JODI HILDEBRANDT? Dr John Matthias leads the discussion. Dr John is a clinical and forensic psychologist. Dr John Matthias and reporter Lauren Matthias, who are husband and wife, have been covering this story since the arrests, and will continue to bring you the very latest in this heartbreaking story that sounds all too familiar. Thank you for subscribing to our podcast and to our YouTube channel LAUREN MATTHIAS has worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in East Idaho, Boise, Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah. In 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award. She left the reporting world to produce the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist. DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California. Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day. Dr. Matthias has been an adjunct assistant professor in the University of Nevada Las Vegas clinical psychology doctoral program since 2007. He supervises UNLV doctoral students on forensic assessments, clinical case formulation, and various therapeutic approaches to clinical work. Your support helps us produce these podcasts/videos. We have some big plans to explore the true crime terrain in a way that no one else has attempted. HIDDEN: A TRUE CRIME PODCAST is: CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY REINVENTED. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors in order to understand the world and ourselves. WEBSITE: https://hiddentruecrime.com/ TO SUPPORT: https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime https://paypal.me/hiddentruecrime https://cash.app/$hiddenTruecrime Join our channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBp03toXz-WZ6gSt7YtSdEg/join Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hidden, a true crime podcast. A forensic psychologist and a journalist explore the hidden

0:09.0

motives behind unthinkable crimes while examining our deepest fears along the way.

0:24.0

Hello hidden gins. It's time for another weekend live hidden hour with the Dr.

0:32.0

John Matthias forensic psychologist. He also happens to be my husband and is just in the other room

0:41.0

so that we can go split screen. It's easier for both of us. But we are co-hosts of this podcast

0:48.0

as well as partners in crime and not in that way in that we are both very interested in the human mind

0:59.0

and the hidden motives that drive human behavior. And yes, our eyes all week have been on the Ruby

1:07.0

Frankie eight passenger Jody Hildebrand case, a heartbreaking case out of Southern Utah as well as Northern

1:15.0

Utah. The arrests happened in Northern Utah but the finding a 12 year old RF as well as 10 year old EF in

1:26.0

Ivan's Utah and Jody Hildebrand's $3 million home happened in Southern Utah. Jody Hildebrand and her

1:34.0

business partner and mother of the children, Ruby Frankie, YouTuber, momcaster, they were both arrested

1:42.0

because of the trauma inflicted on the 10 year old and 12 year old. We have a lot to talk about.

1:50.0

Dr. John has been assessing criminals for 30 years. I was a TV reporter for 10 years.

1:55.0

We have, I think in my opinion, an excellent program for you. We're going to start delving into this and delving it to the hidden motives.

2:04.0

Where do you want to start, Dr. John? There's a lot of unpacking to do tonight. We have been talking all week.

2:13.0

You gave me your little map. Maybe I'll give a little teaser. Look at this guys.

2:21.0

John's storyboard right there. Where would you like to start, sweetheart?

2:27.0

Let's start with one of the things I think that's interesting about this case is the broad appeal of a case like this.

2:34.0

Compared to some of the cases we cover which involved horrific homicides. This case is quite different.

2:44.0

And of course, harming children is obviously horrendous. But fortunately, the children are okay.

2:53.0

They're hospitalized and they're doing well as far as we know.

2:58.0

But in spite of the fact that this crime may not have had such horrific behaviors as we're normally used to covering,

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