meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Hurry Slowly

Rubin Naiman: Wired & Tired

Hurry Slowly

Jocelyn K. Glei

Society & Culture, Mental Health, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Education

4.8649 Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2018

⏱️ 37 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Sleep and dream psychologist Rubin Naiman on living in a wake-centric world, the problem with “hyperarousal,” and why sleep should be sacred.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

We are wake-centric. We believe, without questioning, that waking consciousness, what we're doing now is where it's at. This is the premium. This is consciousness. And that sleeping and dreaming and maybe other consciousness are secondary. And very importantly, they're seen as subservient to waking. We believe that we dream and we sleep to

0:23.6

make us better waking people. I'm Jocelyn K. Gly, and this is Hurry Slowly, a podcast about pacing

0:35.6

yourself, where I explore how you can be more creative, productive,

0:40.0

and resilient through the simple act of slowing down.

0:44.4

Now, every once in a while I get to have the wonderful experience of reading something

0:49.2

that utterly changes the way I think.

0:52.3

And that was the case with an article I recently read in Aeon magazine,

0:56.9

written by today's guest, Ruben Nyman, a psychologist who specializes in sleep and dream medicine.

1:04.7

In the piece, Rubin diagnosed our overworked, overstimulated modern condition condition with a single word that I found extremely intriguing,

1:13.6

hyper-arousal.

1:15.6

Essentially, Rubin argues that ever since the Industrial Revolution

1:19.6

and the introduction of artificial light,

1:22.6

we have been falling out of sync with our natural rhythms as human animals. Staying awake longer,

1:29.8

moving through our days faster, and treating sleep like a necessary evil. Like medicine,

1:36.0

we must force ourselves to take in order to move through our days. In other words,

1:40.9

our perspective as humans has become wake-centric.

1:45.0

And living in a wake-centric world, where we are always doing and thinking and striving,

1:51.3

leads us into a state of hyper-arousal, where our brain waves, our heart rates,

1:58.2

and even our core body temperatures are constantly jacked up, speeding along,

2:03.6

aided and abetted by uppers and downers like coffee and alcohol.

2:08.8

And the end result is that we are constantly wired and tired,

2:13.9

exhausted by the pace that we're operating at, but unsure how to break free.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jocelyn K. Glei, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Jocelyn K. Glei and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.