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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Rube Goldberg Investing

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Business, Education, Investing, How To

4.2 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

A chaotic day leads Don into a deep (and entertaining) dive into the futility of market timing, spurred by a recent Morningstar article on Pacer’s Trendpilot ETF. Don and Tom break down the mechanics of the fund’s strategy, its underperformance compared to a simple 60/40 portfolio, and the long-term cost of trying to avoid downturns. Listener questions bring up diversification, Roth IRAs, and the eternal struggle with ticker symbols. Plus, a special heads-up for federal employees about an upcoming webinar. And yes, kilt ventilation is discussed. 0:04 “It never rains but it pours” rant, helicopters, kilts, and chaos 2:02 Welcome and the evolution from market timing believers to skeptics 3:13 Trendpilot ETF’s moving average strategy explained (kind of) 5:45 Morningstar says: strategy failed, underperformed S&P by 5% annually 6:58 97-year 60/40 portfolio beats Trendpilot in return and volatility 8:32 2020 example: Trendpilot missed the 38% rebound—ouch 9:59 Why market timing fails most investors over time 11:05 Loss aversion vs. long-term strategy with fixed income 13:08 Trendpilot’s $3.3B in AUM—but it still doesn’t justify market timing 14:23 Listener mail: VTEB vs VTBE, Series 65 textbook gems, diversification 18:26 How much in a single stock? Almost none 19:10 Roth IRA allocation question—AVUS, DFIV, AVUV, and maybe just AVGE 22:24 One-fund to rule them all: AVGE breaks it down across 15 funds 24:11 Federal employee webinar pitch – June 7 at appellowealth.com 25:39 Wrapping up with call-in info, dreams about forgetting the phone number, and kilts (again) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:37.9

We're talking real money.

0:40.2

I've never understood this phrase, but I know it's like an 18th century English phrase.

0:45.0

It never rains, but it pours.

0:47.8

You know, it rains outside.

0:49.3

Yeah.

0:49.6

Sometimes it just rains.

0:50.6

I think what they mean is it just when it does rain, it comes down hard. No,

0:55.5

it doesn't. No. Not always. Sometimes it rains lightly. So it never rains, but it pours.

1:01.1

I don't know. I don't get it. But in terms of my life, today I get it. Yeah. What's going on?

1:06.3

What's the downpour? Today I get it. Today I get it. Yesterday I was under the weather.

1:10.6

Yeah. Then today I'm I was under the weather. Yeah.

1:11.1

Then today I'm, I'm trying to record some stuff and there's a sheriff's helicopter going outside the window.

1:20.1

They finally found you?

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