This week on two blocks from the White House.

We're talking about our recent travels and what we've learned from them.

I just got back from the Middle East after covering the Iran War.

And I took what felt like the shortest trip to France ever,

accompanying Secretary of State Marco Rubio to the G7 Foreign Ministers meeting on Friday.

And I'm in Florida this week for the Artemis II Space Lunch.

Join me, Katie Simpson and my fellow Washington correspondents, Paul Hunter and Willie Lowry,

every week on two blocks from the White House.

This is a CBC podcast.

And we're sitting up here. We're going to make sense. Well, it's great. Well, it's great to be sitting down with you today, Professor Schaefer.

I'll just do a little quick intro for you.

Professor Schaefer, you are a founding director of the Center for Professional and Applied Ethics at the University of Manitoba.

You are a professor in the Department of Philosophy and an ethics consultant with a special

focus on issues in professional and biomedical ethics, business and environmental ethics.

Now, this would be the point in which our third host, which is not, who is not here today

because he had a very unexpected thing come up, um, where he would say, I have no idea what that is.

Please tell me, please inform me because I am, I am literally, I'm, I'm literally lost for words.

I don't even know what I just read. But in this case, you were talking to two of the,

the two more intelligent, um, more intelligent hosts of the show.

So we do have a little bit of a sense of what that is. But our main focus today in talking to you

is going to be chatting about the ethics of vaccine passports in Canada. And I guess I guess I guess I guess maybe around the world

too if you've got some thoughts on what the how that works out for other countries as well

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