Hello, residents. My name is Zach Olson. I'm joined today by Mike Estefan, and thank you for downloading

this month's episode of the EM Clerkship podcast. This episode is sponsored by Pearson Ravitts Insurance,

my personal disability and life insurance agent, and today is round number 29 of the game.

29. Yeah, 29. Okay.

A few of you have reached out to me recently because, as you may or may not be aware,

the ABEM, the American Board of Emergency Medicine, recently made changes to their test format.

So all these triple cases that we've been doing, those are gone all of a sudden.

And now they've replaced it with this new format called structured interviews.

Now, in full disclosure, I've never had to do a structured interview myself because this came

after I did my test.

But a few of these are available online.

I've listened to them.

And we're going to do our best attempt at this today to help Mike get ready for the oral boards.

I will say just as like kind of aside,

I think this is a good change for ABM to do because the triples were supposed to be checking

your ability to multitask. However, in the real world, multitasking is completely different

than these triple cases. Like, it's not, in the real world, it's not three interesting cases that,

you know, someone is timing out for you and spacing out for you that are all perfectly designed to be

it's like not like that. It's more like you just get 10 people that all say, you know,

COVID-19 as the chief complaint and one of them is a 30-year-old with apical ACS. You know, it's like, it's more, it's just not, I never thought it was a good

part of the test. These structured interviews are meant to make, to demonstrate that the candidate

can think through and not just that they've memorized like a template. Like, I need a BMP and a CBC

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