You're listening to Draft Kings Network. Hey there, boys and girls, welcome to another edition of the Business of Sports with Andrew Brand.

I'm your host, Andrew Brand. We're produced by Jack Connell, musical producer, my son surviving out in L.A. with the bad fires.

Everyone thinking about everyone out there. Sam Brand, that music here under us. And of course, we're always presented by Draft King's special simulcast today

with my friend and that broadcaster you hear

on all these games now.

Ross Tucker, Ross and I got together.

His experience as a player and a commentator,

my experience as an agent front office executive,

analyst, professor, broadcaster, professor broadcaster journalists etc we get together

now and then we have a good podcast i think you like different perspectives so maybe listeners

from ross's podcasts aren't totally familiar with the business of sports and vice versa we got

together we talked about the end of season stuff, the coaching hirings,

especially the firing in Dallas, the new hire in New England, some other issues. I think you

really enjoy it. As always, we get together and have a nice witty repartee. Enjoy it, if you will.

Now my conversation with Ross Tucker. But Andrew, great to talk with you.

I love being on the business of sports podcast because I know how successful it is and how many people love your show.

It's funny because one thing we can talk about, before we get into the Deshawn Watson and Vrable and Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys and all that stuff,

is just how different this time of

year is for you versus me in our former jobs. As soon as the season's over for a player,

don't get me wrong, Andrew. We want to make the playoffs. You want to have a chance of the Super Bowl,

but I got to be honest with you, the second best thing to making the playoffs is not making

the playoffs. And the season's over and you get to go home for months and do whatever you want,

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