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Ross Gay is the author of The Book of More Delights, Ross is the New York Times bestselling author of the essay collections,

The Book of Delights and Inciting Joy, and Four Books of Poetry.

His catalog of Unabashed Gratitude won the National Book Critic Circle Award and the Kingsley Tufts Poetry Award and was a finalist for the National Book Award.

Beholding won the 2021 Penn America Gene Stein

Book Award. Ross is a founding board member of the Bloomington Community Orchard, a nonprofit,

free fruit for all, food justice, and joy project, and has received fellowships from Cave Canem,

the Breadlow Fridays Conference, and the Guggenheim Foundation. He teaches at Indiana University.

Roz, thank you so much for coming on,

Moms Don't have time to read books,

to discuss the book of more delights, your latest.

Awesome.

Great, glad to be here.

I was just holding up the book of delights,

the book of more delights, and inciting joy. And that's only, you know,

a piece of the puzzle. So tell us about the book of more delights. And I know you talk about,

in the book about how you decided to wait and you had a whole plan for when you would write it

and everything. But tell listeners a little bit about that. Yeah. So, you know, it's a follow-up to another book called The Book of Delights, which I wrote between, I guess, August 1st of 2016. Yes, and August 1st of 2017. And this, you know, I, toward the end, I think I'd talk about this in the introduction to the book of more delights. Let me just say sort of what that book was.

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