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We could not be more excited about today's guests.

So I'm going to just get started.

James Hattersonley is the founder and executive director of We the Free,

which is based in the UK, but spreading veganism throughout the world. James, I've been

watching you. So it's like really cool that you're in this Zoom box with me. Welcome to our

house, James. Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. Yeah, I'm so happy to be here. I'm so

honored to be delighted. Oh my gosh. We're honored to have you. Carrie LeBlanc is the founder and

executive director of Compassion Works International,

where her leadership has led to the demise of several circuses and exotic animal performances

and has helped to change hearts and minds with regard to many more types of animal abuse,

including trophy, hunting, and rodeo. Such important work you're doing, Carrie. Thank you so much for being here and welcome to our henhouse. Thank you. I'm excited after almost 15 years of being in the movement. This is my first time on, and so I'm very excited. Thank you. Well, that was clearly an error on our part. And so I'm hoping you can stay with us for like six or seven

hours today to just catch up from the beginning. Cool. We figured as much. And Stephen Rauch is the

founder of Connect for Animals, a platform for anyone who wants to find their people and their passion

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